in other words you think if things continue there will be -- and inability to raise the debt ceiling, 35 is an inability to do anything in terms of the parties agreeing, both republican and democratic party agreeing on some future course that still there will be an american economy that is growing and is healthy? >> it won't be growing as fast, but if you think about america in the context of europe and japan the willingness of internationals to continue to provide lots of lending support for the u.s. dollar and treasuries remains very high. >> rose: why is that? why do they continue to do that? obviously they believe it is a stable place to be. >> we will be the world's largest energy producer and largest producer of calories, producer of calories, of food, the technology development, overwhelmingly based in the u.s. our demographics are pretty good, housing is picking up, we have a lot of money, this doesn't speak well for unemployment in the u.s. and doesn't speak well well for a lot of people doing the way they used to our their kids but in terms of looking at the united states, o